Nick Jackson (2) Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I'm fitting my front suspension to the GT6 today and I'm stuck on the fitment of my front shock's (Koni Classics). The exact items are like these from Rimmers:-http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GSA366KONIThe problem is that there's no where for my springs to locate to at the bottom of the shock's. I have a spare pair of front GAZ shock's and they have a plate welded into them for the bottom of the spring to locate onto. I've checked the Rimmers website and they definitely say the GSA366KONI items are suitable for the GT6.What am I missing?ThanksNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Nope not right ,you need spring seatsWe use AVO shocks and springshttp://www.avouk.com/RoadsportFrameset-84.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6s Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Could be wrong ( remember being wrong once before ) original Triumph spring platforms were held in place with collets, those look as if they may be collet type.Laurence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 But the koni's are a much better bit of kit ;)Are you missing the spring seats and retaining rings (showed in the rimmers pic)Or did you "acquire" them? ebay seems top throw up lots of stuff with missing bits, which are invariably tricky to get hold of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6s Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 cliftyhanger wrote:But the koni's are a much better bit of kit ;)No argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jackson (2) Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 They were bought new from Rimmers quite a few years ago (usual optimism on speed of restoration) and I have everything shown in the Rimmers photo. The largest seats with 3 holes in them are the top spring seats. I have the 2 medium sized chrome rings but a) don't know exactly where they go and how they fit. Excuse my ignorance but in my defence the instructions are rubbish for a newbie. I can't see how these could act as bottom spring seats though.I also have the 6 chrome items that I assume are used with the rubber bushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfiandy Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Hi,I don't think the chrome pieces are top plates I think they combine with the collar to form the bottom plate. My guess would be you need to extend the shock as far as possible to expose the internal rod, you will probably have to pull really hard to extend it far enough. The C shaper collar then goes over the thin internal rod and down onto the rib on the body of the shock absorber.Once this is in place the other larger ring goes over the top of the shock absorber and mates with the C shaped collar to form the spring seat.You will need to reuse your existing top plate or purchase new ones.Regards,Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 rings slip down the shock body, and the plates on top of that. re the chrome washers, one at the top and bottom of the upper rubbers. Seems you have 2 spare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Well, well, good old Rimmers, so knowledgable and helpful about Triumph parts.The words &rs* and *lb%w spring to mind.These will never fit. The kit is a complete Dogs breakfast for a Triumph.I think they have a website glitch as the follwoing IS correct and carries the same part numberhttp://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GSA366I would send the shockers back, refer Rimmers to their own copies of the Triumph front suspension diagram and the lower spring collar that is an integral part of suitable shocks. Demand your money back as the goods are "unfit for purpose". But if you bought them that long ago, I fear you are stuck. Take advice as above, and recoup as much as possible on ebay.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef633 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 As mentioned above, the chrome spring seats with 3 holes in them are at the bottom. To assemble:1) Extend damper to full length2) Slide bottom spring seat up shock from bottom (it doesn't fit over the dust shield at the top)3) Locate 'C' ring over damper rod and slide down damper to retaining ring embedded in the lower damper body4) Slide bottom spring seat down onto "C" ring5) Put spring on from the top, followed by top spring seat, which has 3 threads protruding out of the top of it to secure it to chassis6) Compressor spring with spring seats on both ends until you can put the bushes on the top of the damper rod to secure it allHopefully these pics will help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef633 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Just seen John's post above... The correct Konis have part number 80-1388 - if you have these, they will fit the GT6 and the spring seat is in the same place as the originals (as per my pics above) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Really, Jeff? What stops the C-rings spreading and the 'spring seat' falling down the shocker body? If there was a recess in the 'spring body' to take the ring, then maybe, but there is none.And why has the lower 'spring seat' got three holes in it, that look as if they are to go over the turret mounted upper seat, as a bit of bling?And why have Rimmers given the same part number to two items?John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jackson (2) Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yes, my Koni's are part number 80-1388. Thanks for the fitting instructions, as there's no way I'd have worked that out from the tiny scraps of paper that pass for instructions. I agree with JohnD though that it's not a great solution compared to a beefy plate to seat the bottom of the spring against.I'll have a play with them and see how I get on.ThanksNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Fitted these a few weeks ago as well, the collar has a recess that locates onto the ring on the shock body and a shoulder where the lower spring mount sits, the collar can not come off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef633 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yes, the collar has a reccess on its upper face, so the spring pan sits on top of and around it to stop any spreading. Once I'd worked out how to assembly it, I thought it was quite a neat solution. No idea why there are three holes in the spring pan, maybe let's any water out as the edge of the pan is flared up into a cup shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The holes can be used for "spring keepers" (the collar is adhered to the mount). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jackson (2) Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 I've finally had the time to fit these Koni's together and it all works per the previous postings. I've also found my old top spring plates so everything is hunky-dory now. If the instructions actually had some legible drawings and some words I'm sure I'd have worked it out myself.Thanks to allNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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