Davemate Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 1) Is there a "set position" for the steering shaft to be set at for "dead straight"There are two tabs on the shaft which I presume are for canceling the indicators,do they have to be set at any position ?2) I have a pi steering to fit and after being told that there not that strong so don't yank on it or you'll bend it. Are all pi's fitted with power steering and will I be better off waiting until I fit power steering( although I'm still not 100 % sure I'm going to fit it) before I fit the pi steering wheel3) to fit a smiths oil preasure gauge what "t" piece do I need for the engine end I believe the connecting tube has standard thread for the gauge end but what about the "t" end For my herald I got tube from mini spares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Make sure the tabs are eqidistant from the the indicator, where they are is about right.MkI PI's did not have PAS, Yes the wheel is a bit weak, I broke the rivets on mine but got some fitted by James. I then had to get Aldridge trimming to recover the wheel.Rather than a T piece I fit the takeoff at the end of the gallery above the petrol pump. Use an allen key to remove. Then you just need a male to male adapter for the gauge. 1/8bsp (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Hello Richard/Dave, we had this discussion some time back on the register forum and I believe the outcome was the gallery plugs are 1/8" NPT. Now while they (NPT and BSP) are close in size and thread pitch, they are different and it is worth taking the plug to where you buy the adapter to ensure it is correct? (Thread form is also different)Alec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 A genuine PI Mk1 wheel is a rather flimsy item and as Richard says is easily broken! They are not suitable for competition use - do you mean you have the stronger Mk2 wheel?If you do have a Mk1 wheel and want a Mk2 one instead I have a spare - could do with a complete Mk1 PI wheel myself as my one does not have a boss.MUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 piman wrote:Hello Richard/Dave, we had this discussion some time back on the register forum and I believe the outcome was the gallery plugs are 1/8" NPT. AlecI think you are right Alec, (my bad) :BThink Automotive in Isleworth should be able to help. Take the bits in there if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 1526 wrote:A genuine PI Mk1 wheel is a rather flimsy item and as Richard says is easily broken! They are not suitable for competition use - do you mean you have the stronger Mk2 wheel?If you do have a Mk1 wheel and want a Mk2 one instead I have a spare - could do with a complete Mk1 PI wheel myself as my one does not have a boss.MUT. I believe I have a mk1 wheel, and I love the look. The one I have has round holes along each of the three armsSame as this one fitted to gurtie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 yep that's a genuine Mk1 wheel Dave, worth a tidy sum of money :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 MikeyB wrote:yep that's a genuine Mk1 wheel Dave, worth a tidy sum of money :) It cost a tidy sum ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 DaveThe cancelling clip is rotatable on a mk1 so column alignment is not needed. Just move clip to suit.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 And I paid a tidy sum for my wheel without a boss!.Do take care with it because they are flimsy and rim and boss get broken easily as I have found in my searches (and from Richard). I do suspect it may not survive the rigors of serious competition and may have a problem with scrutineering because the wheel is supposed to be one piece with the boss, spokes and rim from one stanping but that may only apply to aftermarket rims and original factory items can get away with itOn my Mk1 'period rally replica' I have gone down the Motolita route because that is the one surviving aftermarket wheel from the 1960s and complies fully with MSA specification - I broke the bank and bought one for my Herald in 1968 and then moved up to a posh engraved one in 1972 when I built my rallying Morgan Plus 4.I'll show mine to my MOT guy and see what he says - he quite by chance happens to be Paul Loveridge the top guy in Historic Rally scrutineering ..... :-/. MUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 1344 wrote:I believe I have a mk1 wheel, and I love the look. The one I have has round holes along each of the three armsSame as this one fitted to gurtie Blimey! That's an old picture of Gertie's interior. When was that taken? :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicmk1est Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 red with pink carpet,,,someone trying to tell us something ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think it was the first time you introduced her to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishbull Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 1344 wrote:It cost a tidy sum ;D :-/................ but rare item especially with the rare boss..............I buy it back off you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgetone Triumph Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 1344 wrote:I think it was the first time you introduced her to me Not only are the steering wheels flimsy, but also the nose cones ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 LEE_GODFREY wrote: :-/................ but rare item especially with the rare boss..............I buy it back off you lolNah, got mine on ebay for a tenner! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 962 wrote:Not only are the steering wheels flimsy, but also the nose cones ;D Ooh, Bruce, that hurts! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ok waffle time !Am I putting this together correctly I've had to drill the holes out a tiny weenie bit to fit some nuts and bolts. Is it ok to leave this much hanging at the back,they are well shallower than the casing( excuse the poor pic)1)I presume I've got the first bit on correctly as the horn stem lines up with the hole and groove If I turn the plate 180 then the horn thing wouldn't be supported by the thicker suport behind 2) Does this go on next and then the whole lot gets bolted onto the steering colum Again it can only go on one way due to the cut out for the horn push thing3)Once on the car the upper shroud goes on,again it can only go one way I presume as this metal prong will only fit into one slightly larger grooveBut that means none of the smaller prongs line up with only slots,are they ment to line up ?4) I also presume the small prongs on this piece has to slot into the horn push like so when it's all fitted with the brass tab lining up with the horn springy tube thing Quick edit Is this little hole supposed to line up with anything to hold it on Sorry to waffle on a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 As far a I can tell at a quick glance Dave, all looks correct, with the exception of your little hole which I think should not exist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Might be an idea to use some shake proof washers on those nuts and bolts mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Well done!But leaving the bolts as long as that detracts from the workmanlike quality of the job. Makes it look a bodge, even if it's not!John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 391 wrote:Might be an idea to use some shake proof washers on those nuts and bolts mate. I've used split washers and I was going to "double nut" them and add a dab of lock tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 JohnD wrote:Well done!But leaving the bolts as long as that detracts from the workmanlike quality of the job. Makes it look a bodge, even if it's not!JohnQuite right john, I supose I'm just being lazy I'll cut them down 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 1344 wrote:I've used split washers and I was going to "double nut" them and add a dab of lock tight.Don't overdo it Dave - you may need to undo them at some time and too much locking can make them impossible to undo especially as you are using screws.I have always just relied on a new lock washer (split or 'shakeproof') as Motolita have done for years, but if you want just a bit extra either use a lock nut (a half nut) or a spot of screwlock NOT nutlock.MUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 1526 wrote:Don't overdo it Dave - you may need to undo them at some time and too much locking can make them impossible to undo especially as you are using screws.MUTI had to drill out the holes as the threads were knackered,I'm useing bolts and nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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