65redspit Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Each winter we try to develop Ziggi, our '65 Spitfire. This year the 10CR gave us a perfect 7 day platform to understand what we should be focussing on... Arriving home we have now listed & prioritised the tasks & realised it has set us up for the next TWO winters' development! Hey ho, I guess the gearbox is coming out yet again then 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 What’s on the list, mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 7 hours ago, AndyA said: What’s on the list, mate? Cure Vibration - balance wheels, rebuild overdrive Gear change - change selector forks Clutch upgrade (not competition but stronger diaphragm) Steering column bracket New pop off Steering wheel boss Windscreen wipers (new ones no good!) All 4 wheel bearings Heat protection gearbox tunnel Heat shield carbs Fuse for spots Bolts top of gearbox tunnel brace Waterproofing for hardtop Passenger door glass and weather seals Roof vent to let heat out of the cockpit Touch up sills and add helicopter tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianb Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I’ve lived a sheltered life! So what’s Helicopter Tape?! Do you need Sky Hooks to attach it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 1 hour ago, Adrianb said: I’ve lived a sheltered life! So what’s Helicopter Tape?! Do you need Sky Hooks to attach it! Abrasion resistant polyurethane. Apparently added to helicopter rotor blades for protection from grit and crud. Closer to earth, often seen on the top surface of the chain stays of mountain bikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 4 hours ago, 65redspit said: balance wheels, rebuild overdrive […] Steering column bracket […] All 4 wheel bearings… Sounds like a lot of your list is stopping things from wobbling, getting too hot, getting too wet. We came away from RBRR23 with a similar list. Remembered much of this (and our failure to do any of it) within the first hour of 10CR. 🙂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 7 hours ago, AndyA said: Sounds like a lot of your list is stopping things from wobbling, getting too hot, getting too wet. We came away from RBRR23 with a similar list. Remembered much of this (and our failure to do any of it) within the first hour of 10CR. 🙂 lol 😂 that's my fear for us come the next 10CR !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 7 hours ago, AndyA said: Abrasion resistant polyurethane. Apparently added to helicopter rotor blades for protection from grit and crud. Closer to earth, often seen on the top surface of the chain stays of mountain bikes. Exactly and we keep chipping the sills with the seat belt buckles... so touch them up and apply helicopter tape to stop the chipping in the future... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 It really is a pretty looking car. That is a good list: My thoughts in bold: Cure Vibration - balance wheels, rebuild overdrive: Check Propshaft Gear change - change selector forks: If changing as the gearchange is not precise, maybe first off change the gear lever bushing kit Clutch upgrade (not competition but stronger diaphragm): Steering column bracket New pop off Steering wheel boss Windscreen wipers (new ones no good!) All 4 wheel bearings: Fit quality bearings: Timken, SKF etc Check source before buying. Heat protection gearbox tunnel: Heat shield carbs: Canleys do these: https://www.canleyclassics.com/?product=carburettor-heat-shields Fuse for spots: If the wiring loom if the original one, do think about renewing the whole loom: https://www.autosparks.co.uk/finder/car/triumph/spitfire They will also modify to add extra circuits for spots etc etc Bolts top of gearbox tunnel brace: Essential Waterproofing for hardtop Passenger door glass and weather seals Roof vent to let heat out of the cockpit: Mini van types were fitted to Big Healeys, would look good on a 'bubble top' roof. Touch up sills and add helicopter tape Good luck with it all, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 7 hours ago, Tim Bancroft said: It really is a pretty looking car. That is a good list: My thoughts in bold: Cure Vibration - balance wheels, rebuild overdrive: Check Propshaft Gear change - change selector forks: If changing as the gearchange is not precise, maybe first off change the gear lever bushing kit Clutch upgrade (not competition but stronger diaphragm): Steering column bracket New pop off Steering wheel boss Windscreen wipers (new ones no good!) All 4 wheel bearings: Fit quality bearings: Timken, SKF etc Check source before buying. Heat protection gearbox tunnel: Heat shield carbs: Canleys do these: https://www.canleyclassics.com/?product=carburettor-heat-shields Fuse for spots: If the wiring loom if the original one, do think about renewing the whole loom: https://www.autosparks.co.uk/finder/car/triumph/spitfire They will also modify to add extra circuits for spots etc etc Bolts top of gearbox tunnel brace: Essential Waterproofing for hardtop Passenger door glass and weather seals Roof vent to let heat out of the cockpit: Mini van types were fitted to Big Healeys, would look good on a 'bubble top' roof. Touch up sills and add helicopter tape Good luck with it all, Tim Thanks Tim :0)) frustratingly I've had the propshaft balanced twice - first time the weights came off on the track, second time they ground it to balance it I've changed the bushing kit, it catches changing down into second so I think it's wear in the top of selector where it meets the ball of the shift lever (but I'm not sure) Good bearing tips, thank you 🙏 Thanks also for the Canley tip re heat shields 👍🏻 I've changed the loom but stole the fuse for the spots to run the air horns (I know daft but it genuinely is just a missing fuse, I used up all my spares while diagnosing a fault on another car 🙈) Thank you for taking time to make the suggestions, really appreciated 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I used to use Propshaft Services in Feltham, West London for my prop work back in the day, very good company. Canleys use Dave Mac Propshafts based in Coventry. James Shackford (Shacktune) uses Bailey Morris Ltd, based in St Neots, Cambridgshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I had a Mk2 Spitfire a couple of years ago and really loved the little car...very under-rated. Yours looks brill when queueing up for the ferry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 16 minutes ago, Tim Bancroft said: I had a Mk2 Spitfire a couple of years ago and really loved the little car...very under-rated. Yours looks brill when queueing up for the ferry. Thank you 🤩 we bought her for a banger rally fell in love with her and every winter we try and improve her ... given she is an 1147 I thought she dealt with the 10CR really well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Another propshaft suggestion is Proptech in Kidderminster if you're anywhere near the Midlands. I've used them a couple of times and found them to be very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) I can fully recommend Shelley props in Wolverhampton, they’re spot on and been in business for years. I used to go there in the 80’s when I worked for GKN Autoparts. They were recently used by Mike brewer on wheeler dealers and by fuzz Townsend on car sos they are highly thought of and know classic cars Edited October 9 by Wendy Dawes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 3 hours ago, Wendy Dawes said: They were recently used by Mike brewer on wheeler dealers and by fuzz Townsend on car sos they are highly thought of and know classic cars Blimey Wendy, this will sound flippant, but their use, is that a recommendation...bet they stried to strike up a deal!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted Thursday at 07:34 Share Posted Thursday at 07:34 On 05/10/2024 at 06:44, 65redspit said: Exactly and we keep chipping the sills with the seat belt buckles... so touch them up and apply helicopter tape to stop the chipping in the future... Why not paint sills with overpaintable stone chip and put the top coat over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted Saturday at 12:07 Author Share Posted Saturday at 12:07 On 10/10/2024 at 08:34, thescrapman said: Why not paint sills with overpaintable stone chip and put the top coat over it? Hadn't thought of that 🫣 good idea !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted Saturday at 19:02 Share Posted Saturday at 19:02 Small chassis cars are very sensitive to propshaft balance. I have NEVER EVER had a propshaft for any of my cars (from any supplier) that didn’t vibrate on the car until I’d done an on-car balance. Especially Herald/Vitesse. Unfortunately this has just happened again with one my son has had made for his 1600 twin-cam Spit, so we’ll have to balance that on the car as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted Sunday at 15:35 Author Share Posted Sunday at 15:35 20 hours ago, Nick Jones said: Small chassis cars are very sensitive to propshaft balance. I have NEVER EVER had a propshaft for any of my cars (from any supplier) that didn’t vibrate on the car until I’d done an on-car balance. Especially Herald/Vitesse. Unfortunately this has just happened again with one my son has had made for his 1600 twin-cam Spit, so we’ll have to balance that on the car as well. That's very interesting Nick, where do you go to get this done please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted Monday at 12:25 Share Posted Monday at 12:25 Vibration free?. S https://vibrationfree.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago 18 hours ago, Steve P said: Vibration free?. S https://vibrationfree.co.uk/ Great, thanks, he did our propshaft originally, charged us £600, made it better but unfortunately didn't cure it ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, 65redspit said: Great, thanks, he did our propshaft originally, charged us £600, made it better but unfortunately didn't cure it ... Just re-read my reply - poor punctuation: "Great, thanks" (was NOT meant sarcastically, I was genuinely saying thank you for the info) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I used Feltham Props for a custom prop on my 2.5 CV shaft Vitesse, smaller tube but 100mm flanges to take the torque. Excellent service at a good price. For Tims benefit, Feltham props are now part of Bailey Morris. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Steve P said: I used Feltham Props for a custom prop on my 2.5 CV shaft Vitesse, smaller tube but 100mm flanges to take the torque. Excellent service at a good price. For Tims benefit, Feltham props are now part of Bailey Morris. Steve Is that Propshaft Services? They did the same for us when we upgraded to overdrive ... they balanced it without weights too, so I'm fairly certain it's not the prop but the idea of balancing it all on the vehicle with the wheels does make sense ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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