Stuart Wilson Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) Well I've eventually got the engine for the Moss on an engine stand at work ready to take to pieces and rebuild. Only I think 10 years since the engine that was in the car died on the RBRR This one is a "replacement" one Edited September 20 by Stuart Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 1500 spitfire engine which will be getting a strip down and see what it needs. I'm thinking it'll need a fair amount. It'll be fixed to an overdrive gearbox, which will also need checking over. The main gearbox I'm reasonably comfortable doing but never done anything with an overdrive. So it might be sent to a specialist. Any recommendations for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Sunday saw the start of the strip down. Should hopefully get a little bit done most days/nights after work. Trying to remember to take pictures as I go plus keeping a note of parts I'll need as it all comes to bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Good luck Stuart, just over a year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 4 hours ago, Tim Bancroft said: Good luck Stuart, just over a year!!! Thought this time I'd try not to leave it until the week before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 22/09/2024 at 12:12, Stuart Wilson said: 1500 spitfire engine which will be getting a strip down and see what it needs. I'm thinking it'll need a fair amount. It'll be fixed to an overdrive gearbox, which will also need checking over. The main gearbox I'm reasonably comfortable doing but never done anything with an overdrive. So it might be sent to a specialist. Any recommendations for this? If the OD is "known good" open it up, clean it, clean filters and put it back together - carefully. If it's unknown or bad - specialist. They are not impossible to work on, but any major work needs the proper set-up and testing. Are OD services still about? They used to be decent https://www.overdrive-repairs.co.uk/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 41 minutes ago, yorkshire_spam said: If the OD is "known good" open it up, clean it, clean filters and put it back together - carefully. If it's unknown or bad - specialist. They are not impossible to work on, but any major work needs the proper set-up and testing. Are OD services still about? They used to be decent https://www.overdrive-repairs.co.uk/ Thank you for that, much appreciated. I'll get 'box done after the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) Is it a J Type O/D if so I can post photos from a service manual I have for you to look at Edited September 23 by Wendy Dawes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve AKA vitessesteve Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 You can download a copy of the GKN J type overdrive booklet from my website at: http://vitessesteve.co.uk/Other-manuals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 I've actually forgotten which one it is, I know terrible. Will have to look when I'm back home later this month. Will take pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 Little bit more done tonight, plan is an hour or so most nights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 Little bit more done tonight, not masses, but it all adds up. Followers have seen better days End float 19thou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Looking at the followers the camshaft isn’t going to be great. pulled a similar set out of a 2500 engine, couple of the lobes would have struggled to open the valves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 Plan has always been a new camshaft and followers anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 I heartily recommend cams and followers from Newman cams. Not cheap, but good quality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 And just over the bridge in Kent, I went and picked mine up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 Am I correct in thinking there are 3 main diff' ratios in Herald/Spitfire 4.11/1 3.6/1 3.8/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Yes, 3.63, 3.89 and 4.11. On my 1500 with OD box I run 3.63. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 A later job will be see what I've got fitted and look to change if necessary. Get the engine done then it'll be gearbox and diff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 There's also a "rare" 3.27, used in Swiss Spitfires and GT6s and the 4.875 and 4:55 from the Heralds. But as stated the 3.63, 3.89 and 4.11 are the common ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 Knowing my luck with the Moss based on a Herald I'll probably have a 4.875 or a 4.55 Which would definitely need changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 I'm off and actually at home for a day, so had a look in to the Moss garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 While in the garage I uncovered the gearbox I acquired at about same time as the engine, so about 9 or 10 years ago. Yes it will need checked over as will the D type overdrive. What are people's opinion of fitting this gearbox to the 1500 engine? Or am I better with single rail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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