npanne Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Today I plan to start putting the front suspension back together, and I have a question to anyone who has fitted Spax adjustables.Should I mount them with the adjustment screw facing upwards (towards the upright) or downwards?I had just assumed that it would be upwards, but it suddenly occured to me that maybe this would make adjusting them awkward due to the proximity of the vertical link - would it be better to mount them the other way round so that they can be accessed from underneath?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 It's the same with AVO's. Last time this question came up the conclusion was that people on here have them both ways and it dosent really matter which way round. I have my AVO's with the adjusters at the top and the room for adjustment is a bit tight but still fine. Probably not really an issue with spax as they have a smaller screw adjuster whilst the AVO's have a bigger knob on the side. So basically its whichever way round you think is best... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Very on topic for me this.I have, this weekend, fitted 2 Spax adjustables to the rear and one to the front of my Spitfire (the other front one will need to wait until next weekend).I've fitted them with the adjuster facing upwards towards the uprights. Drove it with just the rears on yesterday and was able to reach in and adjust them without any issues ... Fronts are easy too.I'm gonna regularly apply some spraygrease or similar to avoid the adjuster siezing.Got the rears set on "11 clicks" at present ..... what do others have their Spax's set at on Spitfires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted August 2, 2009 Author Share Posted August 2, 2009 Well I never got as far as fitting the shocks today - I fell at the first hurdle, namely bolting on the turrets. For some reason my new turrets (sourced from a MkIII GT6 don't line up quite right - I just about got the four side bolts in, but the top bolt hole was about 0.5 - 1mm away from the captive thread in the chassis.Is there anyt reason not to file / drill the bolt hole to oval it out a bit, just to make the bolt fit? Or am I going to end up ruining a perfectly good turret by doing that?Is it just me that struggles with so-called "bolt-on" parts? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Tape the adjusters up with waterproof tape, after you got it set this will stop them seizing upMarcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Ha! It's not just you with bolt-on parts. "Variety" as someone nearly said once, "is the spice of parts".If things fit first time it leaves me feeling very suspicious! You don't say if you've torqued the four "horizontal" bolts up before trying the fit of the "vertical" one. Have you? Is there no "wiggle" room with the first four loose? Would torque-ing them up help? :-/Second thing, is the chassis nice and clean under the turret (yes of course it is) and are the mating surfaces of the turret also in good order? (I'm sure they are). I can't remember any issues swapping my turrets (twice - don't ask), but I'm sure they must have needed some jiggling. It doesn't surprise me that you've found some variety, or a small twist in the things or whatever, leaving it 1 mm away. That's nothing. Is it 1mm for-and aft or is it 1 mm away from the centre of the car, JFI? I think I'd use a large 4lb ball-pane micro-adjusting hammer first, if the above fail, then drill if necessary.Larger washer, no problem. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 796 wrote:Tape the adjusters up with waterproof tape, after you got it set this will stop them seizing upMarcusPlan. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 smithy wrote:Ha! It's not just you with bolt-on parts. "Variety" as someone nearly said once, "is the spice of parts".If things fit first time it leaves me feeling very suspicious! You don't say if you've torqued the four "horizontal" bolts up before trying the fit of the "vertical" one. Have you? Is there no "wiggle" room with the first four loose? Would torque-ing them up help? :-/Second thing, is the chassis nice and clean under the turret (yes of course it is) and are the mating surfaces of the turret also in good order? (I'm sure they are). I can't remember any issues swapping my turrets (twice - don't ask), but I'm sure they must have needed some jiggling. It doesn't surprise me that you've found some variety, or a small twist in the things or whatever, leaving it 1 mm away. That's nothing. Is it 1mm for-and aft or is it 1 mm away from the centre of the car, JFI? I think I'd use a large 4lb ball-pane micro-adjusting hammer first, if the above fail, then drill if necessary.Larger washer, no problem. :)Cheers smithy.Chassis is clean, and freshly painted. Bolts are loose, and jigging has been tried (which removed a dissapointing amount of new paint from both chassis and turret).I think I'll try lengthening the hole a little - hopefully that should sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 796 wrote:Tape the adjusters up with waterproof tape, after you got it set this will stop them seizing upMarcusI'm planning to do something like - blob of grease over the adjuster then some kind of tape secured with cable ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Doug, bet ye got them on the ..lowest setting.. :-/unless they have changed the damping , beware of the ..dreaded pull doon.. :-/ :-/, with soft springsthe adjusters tend to stick easily, so either constant ..fiddlin.., or oil will stop it,but some kind of rubber cap, and tape will stop itgood lukMarcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 triumph tune book for Spax says 4-6 rears and 6-8 fronts Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 796 wrote:unless they have changed the damping , beware of the ..dreaded pull doon.. :-/ :-/, with soft springsMy back spring wasn't as soft as it looked when u saw it on La Carrera. Turned oot that the front bolts atop the diff were under tightened. Tightened em up and lost a load of the excessive positive camber.Pete - thanks for those Triumph Tune figs. I'll give it a try on those settings at the weekend and take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elm-phoenix Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I fitted air dampers so just flick switch for more or less presure/ firm or bouncy ride to suit road, so stiffen right up to stop bottoming out on bumpy roads at speed, and low and smoth for comfy town and open roads, dident like spax as had to keep changing em to match were or what I was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Doug, still think they are far toooo stiff, I had some, and took em off, totally useless on a GT, so dont think they be much use on a Spittythe ones I had, maybe Ok on a Herald /Vit, with more weight/passengers, but no for meEven the Avos, on noo, are on 0, somtimes 1, !!!and I got a lot stiffer spring than mostas i said, unless the .. valveing.. has been changed,keep us posted if ye will please, curious to no,ohh , did nae no it was ye, , some pikkys on the way, ;) ;)regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I have mine set at 7 on the rear and 9 on the front! Handles superbly! but very rarely bottoms out on the exhaust at the rear (going over some bumps or really uneven road surfaces!PS I placed the adjusters on the inside so I can adjust them without messing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Will do Marcus.Drove the car Saturday with just the rears on and it was hugely better than with my old shocks .... very noticeably better. And did about 100 miles on Saturday.On the soft end of the setting the Spax's don't appear stiffer than the standard shocks .... so they're maybe not as stiff as what you've experienced in past.So they are definitely staying on the back - much better ride and handling than I was getting (my old ones were ..... old though)The fronts will be ready for this Saturday (work permitting). Will let you know how they're doing once I've been out to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 bobyspit wrote: but very rarely bottoms out on the exhaust at the rear (going over some bumps or really uneven road surfaces! Since I fitted that big Pheonix Box at the back of my car I bottom out now and again too ..... can see the noisy TSSC pipes going back on at some point - but I'm loving the extra lowdown grunt and smooth noise I'm getting with the pheonix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Glad to hear they OK, , so ye no want my ..oldies.. even as a freebee,!!! ;D ;DMarcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkuser Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 What brand of air adjustables did you use Elm-phoenix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 796 wrote:Glad to hear they OK, , so ye no want my ..oldies.. even as a freebee,!!! ;D ;DMarcusOldies? What you got on offer Marcus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 bobyspit wrote:Oldies? What you got on offer Marcus?Think he means his old unloved Spax shockers.PS -not got my 4th un fitted yet. Looks like it might be Friday night before I get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elm-phoenix Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 junkuser wrote:What brand of air adjustables did you use Elm-phoenix?monroe Max-Air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkuser Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Thank you Elm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 To help with the original question, my Spax are all fitted with the adjusters facing away from the wheels, easy to access from under the car at all 4 corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Well all fitted The car is handling superbly - happy days ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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