Steveant1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Hi. All I’m new to this club and I own a triumph herald and the sunroof needs replacing . I can see that there is runners head lining extra. Is there any advice on the best way to go about it. Or plans photos of how to do it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Sorry cant help on the job but first have you sourced a new sunroof as they are horrendously expensive! Even second hand they are so sought after that even in only reasonable condition they go for hundreds... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) Hi Steve May I suggest you find a local car trimmer to do this as it’s very specialised and the sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly on its runners or in the car roof frame, As long as the actual sliding sunroof frame is in good condition a trimmer will do this quite easily , not sure of cost but I suspect around £200/£250 Removal is quite easy, undo it at the front, open it 1/3rd of the way, undo the retaining screws at the back, open it again but only from one side so it ‘twists’ on the frame then you can just lift it out . Hooe this is of some help installation is simply the reverse Edited March 27 by Wendy Dawes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve AKA vitessesteve Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Here are some pages from a Triumph Training booklet that show the sunroof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 On 27/03/2024 at 12:11, Wendy Dawes said: Hi Steve May I suggest you find a local car trimmer to do this as it’s very specialised and the sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly on its runners or in the car roof frame, As long as the actual sliding sunroof frame is in good condition a trimmer will do this quite easily , not sure of cost but I suspect around £200/£250 Removal is quite easy, undo it at the front, open it 1/3rd of the way, undo the retaining screws at the back, open it again but only from one side so it ‘twists’ on the frame then you can just lift it out . Hooe this is of some help installation is simply the reverse Hi., Dawes. Your probably right but I will have a look if I think i can’t do it ill let them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 On 28/03/2024 at 11:07, Steve AKA vitessesteve said: Here are some pages from a Triumph Training booklet that show the sunroof. AKA hi. I did see this when I was looking around in the internet. It’s a pity that I can’t zoom in clearly . But thanks for putting it up for me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 On 27/03/2024 at 11:10, glang said: Sorry cant help on the job but first have you sourced a new sunroof as they are horrendously expensive! Even second hand they are so sought after that even in only reasonable condition they go for hundreds... Hi. I already got one with the car but haven’t undone it yet so not sure of condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 On 27/03/2024 at 11:10, glang said: Sorry cant help on the job but first have you sourced a new sunroof as they are horrendously expensive! Even second hand they are so sought after that even in only reasonable condition they go for hundreds... Got one with the car so hopefully in good condition . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 On 27/03/2024 at 12:11, Wendy Dawes said: Hi Steve May I suggest you find a local car trimmer to do this as it’s very specialised and the sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly on its runners or in the car roof frame, As long as the actual sliding sunroof frame is in good condition a trimmer will do this quite easily , not sure of cost but I suspect around £200/£250 Removal is quite easy, undo it at the front, open it 1/3rd of the way, undo the retaining screws at the back, open it again but only from one side so it ‘twists’ on the frame then you can just lift it out . Hooe this is of some help installation is simply the reverse Hi. Yes I was told but come across the car with one with it . That’s what made my mind up to buy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Saw the car on eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 17 hours ago, Wendy Dawes said: Saw the car on eBay What do you think of it. I hope I made the right choice. In the flesh it looks ok but needs a lot of sorting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 They all need more work than you think once you get them home, I’ve had mine since 2020 and still needs work, just taking the engine out for a rebuild as we think the big end bearing has spun 🙄 your car looked not too bad but the sunroofs are nearly ajways in need of repair, I managed to get one on eBay but I did end up paying as much as it would have cost to get mine re-covered. It’s a matter of getting your car how you want it and not how anyone else thinks it should be, I’ve lost my patience on more than one occasion but I’ve still got Mabel lol .. they’re old cars so we must try to preserve them . I hope you have hours of fun and can withstand the odd times when you might feel a little frustrated . Keep going Steve 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 If you are interested, the current series of Dream Car Fixers features a Triumph Herald. The presenters replace the soft top during the program and make it look quite easy !!! 😂 although I have suspicions about the authenticity of what they actually do. In a different episode they refurb an original SU Morris Traveller fuel pump. At the final reveal this has morphed into a very new looking replacement unit complete with a bright yellow SU sticker on it.🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver clasper Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 27/03/2024 at 12:11, Wendy Dawes said: sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly on its runners or in the car roof frame Hi Wendy. Do the tensioners apply only to the the earlier Britax sunroofs, eg, 12/50, which has four separate, bottom frame pieces? (rather than the 70's ones, which I gather are a one piece square section ?). I have been slowly looking out for an earlier one (they seem much rare than the later ones) to fit to my 67 Vit Saloon, though if it doesn't happen, that's ok (just a perfection item) . I did buy a later one and did some work on it, though sold it on, as the handle is so much more 70's, which I didn't quite like for this car. Are the tensioners available new, do you know? Thanks, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) I only know from removal and refitting the one on Mabel my 1965 12/50, about the side tensioners as far as I know they are renewed when the sunroof is refurbished or a new cover is fitted as original ones are very weak webbing type fabric, so cord ones are usually the replacement, don’t know about later ones . Don’t know about availability though but there is a company in Kings Lynn who might advise it’s MFR Classic cars 01553 844004 or 07970 785284 Edited April 4 by Wendy Dawes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver clasper Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 33 minutes ago, Wendy Dawes said: original ones are very weak webbing type fabric, so cord ones are usually the replacement, don’t know about later ones . Ah, thanks Wendy. I'm aware of the tensioning fabric that runs in a channel, each side, in the top cover. I was misunderstanding, thinking it was some metal bracing brackets that joined the main frame side sections, to the sides of the roof. I thought I once saw a diagram/picture of these (3 each side), though this could be by my imagination? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 Hi not reply to this for a little while working on other parts of the car. I’ve got the sunroof off. And will attempt to put the spare one on that come with the car I haven’t looked at it yet but will post pictures up soon when I go round to the garage again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 Hi. All not been well lately so not able too go to the garage. I’ve got some more things to put on the car I will get round to putting the sunroof on soon and will take some pictures I’ve not forgotten you all. You have all been so helpful . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 Hi . Thanks for the thumbs up. I have been able too get back to the car to take some photos of the sunroof that come with the car not sure what make it is but when trying to get it onto the car it looks like there’s some pads or feet missing I don’t think it should go under the rails I have taken some pictures of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 Hopefully this will help I’m not sure about the rest of the rails that come with it as to where they go can somebody shed some light to it please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 Hi. I’m back at trying to sort my car out been inquiring about the make or how to sort the sunroof out but not getting any where. So I have decided to have a go to sort it out. I’m still waiting for some parts for the water pipe underneath the manifold as I forgot where I put the bits but that’s me all over. I’ve cleaned the carb so hopefully it will be ok. Sorted the stirring out and now working on the brackets. And then hopefully taking it out for a test drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2vitesses Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 there is a chap (John Morgan) in Chorley advertising on FB market place offering a repair to fold back sunroofs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 Thanks mk2 vertexes. I will have a go myself first. If I don’t get nowhere I’ll get in touch with him. I’ve got the water pipe on and the manifold back on having a bit of trouble with the carb. I will take some pictures soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) What problem are you having with the Carb Steve is it a solex or stromberg also I have a contact for sunroof refurb who I met at the NEC Last year Edited August 21 by Wendy Dawes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Hi Steve might be worth getting your carb rebuilt I did with mine when I got it. you can get rebuild kits off eBay theyre about £60 if you fancy having a go yourself. I used carb care in Lichfield to do mine or the other source is Turner Carbs the running issues could be points and condenser and plugs rotor arm in the distributor if you haven’t changed them or even possibly the coil or distributor itself. Hope you can get it sorted. alan at carb care 01543 305160 / 07791 400101 Andrew Turner 01476 860555 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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