butler89 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hi. My 2 litre vitesse just passed its mot. I am over the moon! Yet the breaks are terrifying is a brake servo kit a good idea? Do they make much difference? any info would be great.Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Define ..terrible..compared to a modern, no bite, long pedal,squashy pedal,rusty discs, glazed discs / pads.!!lots of things, but be speciffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butler89 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Brakes not spongy it has new disks, pads, master cylinder. Car will stop just not abruptly enough for me unless lots of pressure is applied to the peddle. Which is why i think a servo would be the answer. ???? regards richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 A servo won't improve poor brakes, however it will reduce the pedal pressure required to stop. Your pads may not have bedded in yet, give it a few miles, however compared to a modern they do require more forceful braking so a proper servo system may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butler89 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thanks for the reply im going to sports car supplies tomorrow to buy the kit. I intend to use the car daily as my work is only a few mile from home so it makes the driving easier.Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 drive round for an hour or so doing lots of hard but varied braking. You really need to bed them in properly.Go along a deserted road braking with your left foot whilst giving it some gas, And long brakes from 60mph to a standstill, that sort of thing.It may also be that the pads you are are just not that great, so a different sort are needed.Also make sure there is no run-out on the discs, that won't help either.Also, what do you normally drive?? Lots of French cars have grossly overassisted brakes, even a servo won't get you close.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butler89 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 thanks for the advice. will try that. Do you think the servo is a worthy addition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It will make for less effort in pressing the pedal.I don't have a servo on either of my spitfires, nor on my GT6 based kit car. Not found a need for it.I do though have an enormous one on my Pi saloon, but that is to compensate for the 1 inch master cylinder.It makes the feel very similar to my Vauxhall Vectra.With new discs and pads it is going to take some time to bed in. Also did you do any work on teh rears??If you did they will need adjusting a couple of times in teh first couple of hundred miles.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 If you are using the modern standard spec "greased cardboard" pads then yes, they will be terrifying. Been there.Before trying a servo, try some Mintex 1144s. Very much more bite from cold and more bite when hot too. Bit more expensive but cheaper than a servo. Don't bother with Green Stuff - nearly as expensive as the Mintex and nearly as rubbish as the greased greased cardboard. Proper old stock Lockheed asbestos pads are excellent too if you can find them.If they still need more effort than you are happy with then it'll have to be the servo.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkuser Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Standard brakes in good condition work very well so consider all of the advice given so far.A thing I don't like about servos is that they can disguise the early signs of brake fade so by the time you realise you have fade you can be in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butler89 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks for all of your replies i will take everything into concideration.Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 this is a pasted copy of the mintex bedding method not sure about where the 90mph bit comes from ,, di dar di dargood evening officer......we run 1144 and a servo ... well why not, the servo kit is a universal fits everything or nothing it is not model specific a bag of bracket and tubes you decide how it goes hwere it goes, shop around eeven MG suppliers some are out there for £100 so do a search before you jump .the master cylinder changed from 0.7" to 0,625" around when the calipers changed if your replacement is the 0.7 and should be the 0.625" you will get a heavier pedal load , worth a check .peteBedding Procedure for M1144 / M1155 / M1166 1) Clean discs with brake cleaner2) Following initial brake test start with 3 � 4 light applications from 30mph down to 0mph.After these, follow the steps below according to Material.M1144: 6 / 7 medium pressure applications 70mph down to 30mphM1155: 8 / 9 medium pressure applications 90mph down to 30mphM1166: 9 / 10 medium applications 90mph down to 30mphWhen carrying out the bedding process, do not allow the brakes to drag, do not left foot brake. To do so may result in damage to, or failure of the brake system.Leave the brakes to completely cool.For Further information please contact Richard Barton on 01274-854030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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