GT6 M Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Ello Ian,what was the valve ye were looking at.Im lookin at thee,s seems as they are nromally closed, and open with a live.this is fine, as I can let it open when I turn ign on.butt, when filling up, can mek current go thru a on/off switch, to limit oil drain on pumpthink this is OK!!, or any one else say a better,nhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-Electric-Water-Gas-Oil-Solenoid-Valve-Normally-open-12-VOLT-DC-/371108410869?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667c8f5f5went to scrappy this after, and got some 3 inch ally pipe, so need to weld 2 ends on it.got a bigg pot type ally cylinder, needs a inlet /outlet plug int end,and a used fire extinguisher, so plenty to fiddlate aboot with, 2£ all in,M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 http://www.baldwinfilter.com/image/1011PHGraphic3.jpgI cant for the life of me see just hoo this works,all it seems tobe dooing is bypassing a filter.is this so if first filter clogs up, it allows 2nd filter to come into play,(think)(think)its almost like the Kale Auto engine oil bypass kit,keeps yer engine oil as good as new,!!http://kalecoauto.com/index.ph.....An71HCsdRYZN6xubTKu1enlighten me IanM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 http://www.baldwinfilter.com/image/1011PHGraphic3.jpgI cant for the life of me see just hoo this works,all it seems tobe dooing is bypassing a filter.is this so if first filter clogs up, it allows 2nd filter to come into play,(think)(think)its almost like the Kale Auto engine oil bypass kit,keeps yer engine oil as good as new,!!http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11&products_id=40&zenid=dwAn71HCsdRYZN6xubTKu1enlighten me IanM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver clasper Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hi everybody.Have been wondering about this oil pressure on start up for a while.My current and first vitesse had a spin on adapter fitted and a Mann filter which is new.If left for a while I remove rotor arm and crank over until oil light goes out and this takes about 12 seconds, then fire her up and oil light goes out after about a second.If using daily then I crank over on first start for about 5 second then give choke and it fires up and oil light goes out after a couple of seconds.I have never noticed a mechanical noise from engine on start up, except maybe once or twice when engine hot and been running for a while.Are these normal time lags.Cheers for any advice. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver clasper Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hi everybody.Have been wondering about this oil pressure on start up for a while.My current and first vitesse had a spin on adapter fitted and a Mann filter which is new.If left for a while I remove rotor arm and crank over until oil light goes out and this takes about 12 seconds, then fire her up and oil light goes out after about a second.If using daily then I crank over on first start for about 5 second then give choke and it fires up and oil light goes out after a couple of seconds.I have never noticed a mechanical noise from engine on start up, except maybe once or twice when engine hot and been running for a while.Are these normal time lags.Cheers for any advice. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't really see the the need of going to a Mann filter with a spin on adaptor. After all the filter (mine are) is sitting vertical so can't drain out or can it ?Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't really see the the need of going to a Mann filter with a spin on adaptor. After all the filter (mine are) is sitting vertical so can't drain out or can it ?Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Most screw into the block and face downwards at an angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Most screw into the block and face downwards at an angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 well I got me Markussump MK1 done, there 2 pints init, hoping its enough to fill me engineoil ways up and maybe raise some pressure befoer it starts.limited to size as to where I put it, will be fitting it when yam on tues.and some pics to show hoo it were done.biggest outlay was the solonoid valve, less than a 5ver of flea baysame thing at local hydro spot, nearly 60£!!!even wid a Mann filter, the oil light still stops on aboot 4-5 secs normal filters were about 10 secs if left fora week or soso this mod may weel be a worth while thing for all to bung onM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 well I got me Markussump MK1 done, there 2 pints init, hoping its enough to fill me engineoil ways up and maybe raise some pressure befoer it starts.limited to size as to where I put it, will be fitting it when yam on tues.and some pics to show hoo it were done.biggest outlay was the solonoid valve, less than a 5ver of flea baysame thing at local hydro spot, nearly 60£!!!even wid a Mann filter, the oil light still stops on aboot 4-5 secs normal filters were about 10 secs if left fora week or soso this mod may weel be a worth while thing for all to bung onM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6MK3 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Photos Man, Photos! (woot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6MK3 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Photos Man, Photos! (woot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 when its finitoed, actually on the MK2 version noo, MK1 just didnt look right,M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 when its finitoed, actually on the MK2 version noo, MK1 just didnt look right,M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Quoted from ferny Most screw into the block and face downwards at an angle. Sorry, was thinking it was a 2500 motor.Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 ferny wrote:Most screw into the block and face downwards at an angle. Sorry, was thinking it was a 2500 motor.Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Finally got me tank in spot, done it in stainless,as fust attempt was in Ally, and it went balloon shaped when pressure tested it at 150 PSI Aint fired engine up yet, as run oot time the niteButt, its bigger than I was gonna doo, think,n if it looses a wee bit of oil frae week to week, then there still plenty left initits aboot 3 an a bit pints, think it looks ok where I got it.Its wired to come open when IGN is switched on,as soon as oil light goes off, then I swith the under dash inline earth switch off,so that when engine first starts, its no filling the thing back up,then can open valve agen when engine is actually runningwill eport back on hoo well it works when im next int shedsome piks to see what im on abootand fra a distance so ye get a better ideaM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Did you MAKE that tank, Markus?Reespect!John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esxefi Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Marcus,it's a great idea and I was pondering it over.my thinking was 2 lines to the tank,1) a large bore pipe as you have to quick empty the tank into the oil system with the solenoid valve negative wired to the oil pressure switch so it auto empties when the ign is activated,when pressure is high enough to extinguish the oil light the solenoid should shut off(you could fit a higher rated switch to get more pre oiling if required)this would also switch in if the light was to come on during times of low pressure like oil surge from hard cornering etc.2) a small bore pipe say 1/8 - 3/16" fed from the main gallery back to the tank with a one way check valve to auto refill the tank.as you have only just started the car and are driving at low speeds the pressure bleed off shouldn't be a problem.or you could incorporate a timer delay relay so the solenoid will reactivate after a set time.what do you think? sorry if you have mentioned some of this already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Quoted from JohnD Did you MAKE that tank, Markus?Reespect!John Yes all me own handy work John., thanks for the R bitM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Paul, thowt aboot this me sell, but this valve seems to be directional, its arrowed, so think,n its the same type as used in the OE accky sump typeIE, it allows a quick discharge, but a slower fill up.But bunged an inline switch on just incase it dont.really should bung a pressure gauge onit to see what its doo,nsee if it fillls fast or slow.It will also act, if left open, as an oil feed if there oil surge on corners / hills.not that Ive ever noticed this , as keep a pint extra int sumpme think,n on this is, there alot of oil flung every where when engine is running.Dip the oil after engine first off, and oil is down on dip stik, hence extra oil int sump to compensate.here a vid to show how it pre charges systemhttps://youtu.be/uhRfUegqwxgM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPearce Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 You certainly do get a fair bit of oil "flung around" so that the level in the sump drops with the engine running compared to when you normally check the dipstick. However, the Triumph engineers were well aware of that, so the "min" mark on the stick is well above where the pump starts to struggle. So you shouldn't need your "pint extra" because the factory already did so. Probably does no harm, though, and certainly better than letting it get down to the minimum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 For JD, this is what i med it oot of.food grade stainless pipe, 1 mm thick, with 4 mm end plates.And, decided to add an oil / pressure gauge, just to see whats actually init,and also to see if the press drops owa time.its a 0-60 type, so I can auto see when its high just cos needles way round.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyspit Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hi Marcus,That's a fantastic idea to get rid of the Triumph rattle on startup. For those of us not so adept at welding stainless steel, could you not also use a fire extinguisher casing for the pressure chamber?Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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